Interview With Marianne Cooper-Van Der Veen On Podcast Show I'm Just Sayin' With Dionne Johnson

I was a guest on the podcast show "I'm Just Sayin'" with Dionne Johnson at Morris Media Studios in Los Angeles on December 6th, 2019. Starting around 33:16, Dionne asks me what it's like to live in the United States as a Dutch immigrant and what my thoughts are on the American society. Enjoy!